they bring in there and who has been with the boston globe for years. cheryl: while a market selloff would be the likely reason for falling off the fiscal cliff. joining us now is mark. you are a big dividend supporter. major selloff in the market. how are you feeling now? >> i still think dividends are the way to go long-term. we could get a selloff. one thing to keep in mind, there is an argument out there that this increase in taxes on dividends would really sink dividend stocks because that would make them less attractive. if you go back years, there have been many studies that have shown higher taxes on dividends have higher returns on those stocks and even the s&p 500. there is no historical correlation between lower returns on dividends. cheryl: at the same time, what we are seeing now is constitutional as you and i know. these have certain parameters they have to meet. the fear is they will have to sell out some of these dividend names. is this bad for shareholders? >> in the short term, it definitely is. for a long-term investor, it will create